47 Comments

1. 

   FamousDrScanlon on December 19, 2023 at 4:55 pm

   Last post until the 28th? We will keep things going here in the comments.

   Happy Christmas & a safe journey.

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     Panopticon on December 19, 2023 at 5:18 pm

     Thank you, FamousDrScanlon. It is indeed my last post until the 28th. Unless of course the ferry is cancelled tomorrow morning – always possible. 😂

     Please be nice to each other in the comments section and I wish you all a very happy holidays!

2. 

   zip on December 19, 2023 at 6:40 pm

   Hello Pan… I hope you have a wonderful Christmas with the whole family

   The ferry will sail I’m sure… no storms in sight… The ‘collapse’ is not that far off now. Thank goodness for that matter. 2024 will be an ‘important’ year I can read that in my thumbed-out pack of cards and my squeezie board 🙂 and if not, in your unsurpassed updates!!!

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     Cassandra on December 19, 2023 at 10:52 pm

     Collapse not far off…I agree.
     Happy Winter Solstice and Merry Christmas, Pan! We will miss you but will carry on until your return!

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   FamousDrScanlon on December 20, 2023 at 2:47 pm

   Burning down the memory palace

   The end of the world as we know it

   The Book:

   ‘Fire Weather: A True Story from a Hotter World’

   By John Vaillant, Knopf 2023

   “The Talk:

   “In the spring of 2016, halfway through the hottest year of the hottest decade in recorded history, a new kind of fire introduced itself to the world,” writes John Vaillant in the prologue to his 2023 book Fire Weather: A True Story from a Hotter World.

   In dramatic, pulse-pounding detail, reminiscent of a book like Into Thin Air, Vaillant chronicles the community response to Alberta’s Fort McMurray fire, in which nearly 100,000 people were evacuated within hours and over 2,500 homes and buildings were destroyed. Ultimately, the fire burned for over a year, and became the most expensive disaster in Canadian history.
   A new kind of fire

   Fire is a natural phenomenon. Vaillant explains that fire on Earth would not exist without the oxygen that comes from living things. Even the trees of the boreal forests have evolved to burn. Fires happen every spring in the far north, and they are an essential part of a healthy boreal forest ecosystem.

   But what has begun to appear in recent years—due to extremely high temperatures, extremely low humidity, and extremely high winds—are firestorms unlikely anything the world has seen before.”

   Under these conditions, helicopters cannot fly to fight the fires. Water from fire hoses evaporates before it even gets close to a flame. Emergency vehicles (and workers) must be constantly sprayed down with water in order to operate. Houses are incinerated to ash within 3-5 minutes, leaving nothing but a pile of nails. Even toilets and sinks vanish.

   Vaillant describes how, during the 2009 Black Saturday Fires in Melbourne, Australia, “animals and people were killed by radiant heat alone, from hundreds of yards of away, as if they had been felled by a death ray.”

   “We are beyond the normal scope of fire here,” writes Vaillant. “Familiar formulas do not apply. This is the kind of energy that does not burn but vaporizes, an energy more often associated with lasers, atom bombs, and suns.”

   “When experts attempt to calculate the energy released from these megafires, they use megatons. Many of the survivors used similar language.”

   “One fire expert Vaillant interviews compares the McMurray fire to Operation Gomorrah during World War II, when the Allies carpet-bombed Hamburg, Germany, for eight days with the specific intent of causing mass urban fires.

   In addition to heat, there is the size. Out of these fires emerge what wildfire fighters call “dragons,” eruptions of combusting gas hundreds of feet high. Megafires can become so large they create their own weather and their own lighting which can start new fires. The 2018 Carr fire in California formed a tornado that lifted pickup trucks into trees while also burning them down to their springs. With everything burnt to ash or melted down, a survivor describes it like “a bomb, like Hiroshima.”

   https://www.letustalkbooks.com/p/burning-down-the-memory-palace

   Duhniers after every climate Jacked megafire – “Yabut we always have fires” “Jew space lasers” “eco terroists” HAARP “Something something grant money”.

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     Rusty on December 21, 2023 at 12:11 pm

     A high quality comment. Keep ’em coming!

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   FamousDrScanlon on December 20, 2023 at 3:10 pm

   This Generation’s Problem

   We could see Climate Chaos in the next twenty years

   Thomas Neuburger
   Dec 19, 2023

   “From James Hansen’s latest version of his latest paper, “Global Warming in the Pipeline,” we find this (emphasis mine):

   Consistent analysis of temperature over the full Cenozoic era … implies that CO2 was 300–350 ppm in the Pliocene and about 450 ppm at transition to a nearly ice-free planet, exposing unrealistic lethargy of ice sheet models.

   Keep that number — “450 ppm at transition to a nearly ice-free planet” — in mind as you read the following.

   CO2 growth is accelerating

   Note the peak at 424 ppm, and consider again: “Consistent analysis of temperature over the full Cenozoic era [implies] about 450 ppm at transition to a nearly ice-free planet.”

   Like global warming itself, the rate of CO2 growth is accelerating. Annual growth is now 2.4 ppm per year on a decadal basis, up from 2 ppm per year in the previous decade.

   https://neuburger.substack.com/p/this-generations-problem

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   TR on December 21, 2023 at 4:53 am

   I was going to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Seasons Greetings but someone would get offended. And if I didn’t someone else would get offended. Wonder how they would react to; There is no proof for any god ever worshiped by the Clever Ape.

   Debbie Downer! 😉

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     FamousDrScanlon on December 21, 2023 at 2:37 pm

     TR, I don’t care if anyone gets offended. I’ve never bowed to conservative horse shit (keeping my atheism to myself around our religious aunts & cousins) & I’m not going to bow to any cancel culture assholes either.

     Christmas time holds many fond memories for me of my friends & family & simpler times.

     The corporate consumerist version of Christmas, now that I hate and I’ll let the song in the link express my feelings on corporate christmas.

     https://youtu.be/scnqePfFpa8

     I think there has been midwinter feasting/partying of some sort in a great many cultures. Without electricity & central heating & grocery stores, midwinter feasting/partying probably was appreciated a whole lot more.

6. 

   TR on December 21, 2023 at 5:13 am

   No better monkey mind argument than ; “I don’t live there, so why should I care.”

   https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/75-alaskan-rivers-turn-bright-orange-tainting-water-supply-endangering-humans-and-wildlife-scientists-investigate/ar-AA1lOJ1J?ocid=socialshare

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   Curt Kastens on December 21, 2023 at 9:28 am

   Something that I had not thougt about before:

   In the war in the Ukraine thousands of artillary shells I being fired by both sides each day. We can add to that the bombs droped by drones, aircraft and heliocopters. We can also add to that the bombs that get blown up before they are fired.

   So, I just learned yesterday that one of the by products of these explosions is Nitrogen Oxides NOs). Well, NOs are much more potent than methane as a greenhouse gas.

   I provided links on the Collapseofindustrialcivlilization site yesterday. Comment number 230 I think that it is on its last article. The site is only putting out something new about twice a year so you will not have any trouble finding the links.

   I find it funny that in both the Ukraine, and Palestine, and in most likely soon in Eritrea, and in Venezuela each side could tell the other, stop fighting you are destroying the planet. Then we would go into a an internal regress, no you stop fighting, no you stop fighting.

   I myself do not want the fighting to stop until the most guility fry. At what cost someone might ask.
   The reply is, at this point what ever the costs the opportunity costs now make the real costs non existent, or something like that.

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   FamousDrScanlon on December 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm

   ‘Everything is dead’: How record drought is wreaking havoc on the Amazon

   Communities that rely on the rainforest’s waterways now find themselves struggling with fire and plunging water levels.

   ” a severe drought has engulfed large swaths of Brazil’s Amazon rainforest. All that remains of the Canaticu River in some areas is a dark brown trickle, laden with bacteria and almost completely dried up.

   “Now we cannot use it for anything. It wasn’t like this before,” said 36-year-old Elizete Lima Nascimento, who has lived in one of the riverside communities, Serafina, for the past decade.

   The dry conditions have sparked a crisis in towns like Serafina — one that could transform their way of life for generations to come.

   Hundreds of thousands of people rely on the Amazon’s rivers and streams for food, transportation and income.

   But the historically low water levels have forced residents to reimagine their relationship to the environment. One tributary, the Rio Negro, plunged to levels not seen in 121 years.

   “We are completely dependent on nature,” Maria Vanessa Tavares de Souza, a 36-year-old teacher who lives in Serafina, said during a community meeting to discuss the problems caused by the drought.

   “Now that climate change has unbalanced everything, it’s going to be hard for us to survive here.”

   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/20/everything-is-dead-how-record-drought-is-wreaking-havoc-on-the-amazon?traffic_source=rss

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   Curt Kastens on December 21, 2023 at 8:42 pm

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfy6-_ydOyo

   The headline of this link is so obnoxious it is astounding. The headline is 90% of Russian Invasion Force dead or wounded. If this headline were even half true the Russians would not even be able to fight anymore let alone be on the offensive at this point in time. Western MSM has been reporting for 18 months now. The Russians are running out of men, war materials and morale. That such obviously false news can continue to be circulated in western society with no consequences to anyone involved demonstrate the complete collapse of morality in a massive industry (the press) in western society.

   The Russian version spread by some people on the far left in western societies that the Russians do not advance great distances to put an end to the war is because the Russians do not want to advance because that would be to costly in terms of human lives and they are fighting a war of attrition does not ring true either. But the Russians have a half decent excuse. That is that if Russia does not match western claims the west will gain a propoganda advantage. Can the west use this same excuse and get away with it? Are there any reasons that would nullify this excuse for instiutions like The Telegraph and the Guardian and CNN and Fox and the NYT and WaPo.?

   Winning a decisive victory would bring the costs of the war to an end for Russia. But there seems to be more truth to what the Russians say because it is the Ukrainians who are contemplating drafting women. Still if Russian claims of the number of Ukrainian killed and wounded were even half true the Ukrainians would no longer be able to mount a credible defence of the country.

   Hopefully we will not have long to wait before the Ukrainian defences simply start collapsing due to lack of manpower. But until that happens Russian claims of success will not be confirmed.

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     Rain on December 23, 2023 at 3:50 am

     Curt, I too have been following the same narrative on Ukraine-Russia for some years now. Of course, there is clever propaganda from “both sides” in any conflict, but real information can be found if you know where to look.

     I first became interested to find out, around the time of the “War on Terror”, and the narratives spun even in the UN to justify the invasion of Iraq.

     When the same sort of story-telling came out about Russias 2022 invasion of Ukraine, I figured I would have to dig to get around and bypass the news headline paragraphs of the MSM in the anglo-euro dominated media.

     Like Guterrez said of the Oct 7th raid on Israel, Ukraine also didnt happen “in a vacuum” with 10+ years of history,
     and the subsequent reporting of battleground actions , losses and gains from Western sources has become more fantasy delusions by the month. Scrambling to find a story or a ‘spin’ or a Plan B that can “save face” for the West/NATO/Ukraine.

     Putins recent national press conference was interesting, when a journo asked him what advice he would give his younger self 20 years earlier. He said something along the lines of to ” never trust the word of the West”, done nothing but break agreements from the end of the Cold War, peaking with Angela Merkel laughing in public about “duping” Russia with the Minsk Agreements as a means to “buy time to arm Ukraine”.

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       Curt Kastens on December 23, 2023 at 10:27 am

       Yes the propoganda leading up to the invasion in Iraq was a watershed moment for me as well. Up until then I could not decide if the reason that politicians promoted policies that i thought were terrible was because they were stupid or because they were evil. The events of 2002 and 2003 decisively ended that indecision.
       I then began looking at the events of history from a whole new perspective. An early ephiany concerned the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. I quickly determined that there was no chance in hell that this attack was an accident. Although the accident story is the orthodox explination of the event there were others before me that understood that was a bullshit story.
       But one thing that troubled me is that all of the explinations that were put forth by those who could understand that the accident story was bullshit did not make sense. That is when I had a second ephiany. It was not the Israelis who made the decision to attack the USS Liberty. It was the leadership in the United States. This incident was to form the foundation of the idea that other than the National Rifle Association, the Israeli Lobby is the most important lobby in the United States.
       Understanding this had all kinds of implications for me. One is that the visable political fighting between the Democratic and Republican politcal parties are not more than a form of “proffessional” TV wresting. Everything that happens is scripted in advance. The purpose of this show or circus is to convince the public that they live in a democratic country in which their vote counts. I do not mean to imply that the ballot boxes are stuffed or that the votes are not properly counted. But that the voters are massively decieved by the institutions that disseminate public information.
       In addition to that it slowly dawned on me that state of affairs did not start existing on November 22nd 1963. It eventually came apparent to me that the United States, and the European Powers before that, have always been a force for evil. But that in the late 19th or early 20th century that something happened in the United States that resulted in the monopoly of political power by what is commonly refered today as the deep state in the United States.

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         Curt Kastens on December 23, 2023 at 6:19 pm

         Even the crimes that politicians committ are sometimes scripted in advance to promote some agenda of the deep state. The January 6th riots were clearly scripted not by Trumps advisors, but by the deep state. Also the hallaballu about Trump threatening to withhold aid to the Ukraine unless the Ukrainians investigated Hunter Biden was scripted. I am also now convinced that the crimes committed by Netinyahoo were also scripted. The alligations against him now come in very handy as a cover story that Netinyahoo is not seeking peace with Hamas because the longer he keeps the war going the longer he stays in office.
         The Wagner Riots against Putin were also no doubt scripted by Putin himself with the aid of a few trusted people.
         The Wagner Riots served to showcase the complete hypocracy about the supposed democratic credentials of the west. I can not say if Pigrosen and those Generals that he worked with understood their role in the play. Therefore I can not say whether or not they got what they deserved.

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    Curt Kastens on December 21, 2023 at 9:52 pm

    I just remembered the completely absurd narrative that the western media were pushing earlier in the year about the Ukraine war. That is that the Ukrainian forces had a chance to successfully carry out an offensive when they had neither artillery supiriority or air supiriority. It is as if the entire success of the plan depending upon Russian soldiers running away once they were attacked.

    This failure which is still not often acknowledged in the western media makes western leadership look completely incompetent. And many analysists do claim that incompetence is exactly what we are dealing with.

    But I myself do not accept this explination because no one who has gone through just basic military training can be that stupid. Everyone is a position of responsibility. Ukrainian, English, Canadian, and American alike, had to know that the offensive was going to fail.

    All of these people also had to know that the aid that the west was giving to the Ukrainians was not sufficient to defeat the Russians.

    The implication of these considerations is that the motives of western leaders in waging war against Russia are not what they are claimed to be. If the western leaders were tellling their societies the truth they would have acted differently.

    Therefore a sensible person can conclude that the western leaders, including the Ukrainian leadership have been blatanly betraying their own populations.

    So far the Ukrainian people have suffered the most due to this massive betrayal.

    To me the historical evidence indicates that the purpose of the 2014 coup in Kiev was to impliment a plan to open up Russia to western exploitation by creating the conditions for regime change in Moscow. In fact the historical record indicates to me that defacto control over Russia has been on the menu of western desires going back to 1917 if not sooner.

    But due to the failure to weaken the current regime led by Putin the it seems to me that the methods that the west will employ to achieve their goals has apparently changed. It was easy to see by the way that the west was spinning the narrative on the Wagner incident last spring what the goals of the west had been. It was also easy to see the double standars of the west at work when it comes to their so called rules based order. The armed overthrow of are enemies is a legitimate act of revolution. The armed overthrow of our friends is a diabolical betrayal of civilized values. This double standad by the west pretty much applies to everything in life. It might have been some here who said it recently. It might have been someone at the Ian Welsh blog. What was said was, (refering to western leadership)
    the rules based order means that we make the rules and that we change the rules when it benifits us.

    Western rulers actually expected Russian soldiers to accept this dictum and run away when thery were attacked by the Ukrainians. The reason that the western leadership thought that this would happen is because that the many Urkrainians were delighted to place themselves under US leadership since 2014 just as almost all western European nations have done since 1945. They no doubt could not imagine that the Russians would be any different. (or the Chinese for that matter.)

11. 

    FamousDrScanlon on December 22, 2023 at 2:29 pm

    Disproportionate declines of formerly abundant species underlie insect loss

    Abstract

    “Studies have reported widespread declines in terrestrial insect abundances in recent years1,2,3,4, but trends in other biodiversity metrics are less clear-cut5,6,7. Here we examined long-term trends in 923 terrestrial insect assemblages monitored in 106 studies, and found concomitant declines in abundance and species richness. For studies that were resolved to species level (551 sites in 57 studies), we observed a decline in the number of initially abundant species through time, but not in the number of very rare species. At the population level, we found that species that were most abundant at the start of the time series showed the strongest average declines (corrected for regression-to-the-mean effects). Rarer species were, on average, also declining, but these were offset by increases of other species. Our results suggest that the observed decreases in total insect abundance2 can mostly be explained by widespread declines of formerly abundant species. This counters the common narrative that biodiversity loss is mostly characterized by declines of rare species8,9. Although our results suggest that fundamental changes are occurring in insect assemblages, it is important to recognize that they represent only trends from those locations for which sufficient long-term data are available. Nevertheless, given the importance of abundant species in ecosystems10, their general declines are likely to have broad repercussions for food webs and ecosystem functioning.”

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06861-4

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    FamousDrScanlon on December 22, 2023 at 2:34 pm

    That link above is paywalled, but not if you use this free, open source extension. I’ve used it for years – no problem.

    UNPAYWALL

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13. 

    Jerry McManus on December 23, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    Very compelling evidence that methane is telling us that a planetary shift is already underway and started in about 2006.

    Euan Nisbet (Royal Holloway, University of London): Global Methane – is methane telling us that climate warming feedbacks have already driven us over a termination-scale tipping point?

    Methane: possible tipping points or surprises
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJlyBVT-OJg

14. 

    TR on December 23, 2023 at 11:14 pm

    Curt K,
    I tried to post this reply to you yesterday,it never made it thru the web to here.

    “Cummins pickup truck engines systematically tricked air pollution
    controls, feds say”

    The fine should be spread to all those that owned stock during this scam.
    I want to make money but don’t want to take a loss or responsibility for a business I’m involved in. Will the stockholders suffer & die from their participation in a company that pollutes the habitat. Wonder if they know their money can’t protect the ones they love. Cummins might be a drop in a bucket compared to the fossil fuel industry & it’s stockholders.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/22/cummins-
    truck-engines-defeat-devices-feds-say/72013430007/

    I’m looking forward to the masses finally realizing what they have done to this rock & there is no place to escape to.

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      Curt Kastens on December 24, 2023 at 10:43 am

      TR,
      Thanks for the note. I will make sure to pass on the information. I am not sure that someone with 5 or 10 shares should be punished for Commons air pollution fraud. But those that hold a 5% or more stake should perhaps be. More importantly the the top 5 or 10 people who ran the day to day operations should pay Dearly.

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        TR on December 26, 2023 at 4:02 am

        I’m sure that those with few stocks were glad to see any profit regardless of how much their company pollutes & defrauds. It would be great to see a list of stockholders of any business who have spoken up against habitat destruction. I don’t expect much, so I’m seldom disappointed. 😉

        The Clever Apes #1 motto: “It’s not my fault.”

15. 

    Curt Kastens on December 24, 2023 at 10:37 am

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/travel/tripideas/a-look-at-earth-in-2050-if-climate-change-isn-t-stopped/ss-AA1fIq2Z?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=4e2d019435bc4115ef354aca889c9626&ei=13#image=6

    Quality Art

16. 

    bry on December 24, 2023 at 1:10 pm

    I have not looked in for a while but did find it mildly amusing that a climate change site had it schedule altered by storms!!

    Happy Xmas Pan to you and yours and safe journey.

    Enjoy Xmas you all out there.

17. 

    Kali on December 24, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    Oh gosh! We have been greatly misled, apparently!
    https://open.substack.com/pub/elizabethnickson/p/the-epic-bullshit-of-catastrophic

    Pan can close this site down, I reckon.

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      Jerry McManus on December 25, 2023 at 6:27 pm

      It’s always interesting to see another point of view:

      – Greens hate humans.
      – Christianity battles that hatred (but only on sunday at church)
      – Greens are only interested in serving drug cartels
      – Greens want to destroy the economy by leaving land “unused” and forests “untended”.
      – The future impacts of climate change have been absurdly exaggerated.
      – Oh, and don’t forget the drug cartels.
      – Greens are vicious, heartless fascists who want people to live in a hellish dystopia of poverty and homelessness.

      So, you see, the worse things get the more likely it is that conservative religious folks are going to be looking for someone to blame. Hilarity ensues.

      How ironic that the so-called greens are just as stupid:

      “If only those vicious, heartless alarmists would shut up!”
      “If only those vicious, heartless fossil-fuel CEO’s would shut up!”
      “If only we could get busy with the TRANSITION!!!” (cue the herald angels)

      Yes… Hilarity.

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      TR on December 26, 2023 at 4:07 am

      Even Donald Trump knew we should rake the forest. 😉

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      Heather B on December 26, 2023 at 5:46 pm

      So everything is Russia fault and the left. This is getting harder for me to swallow and China in the end it will not matter.

18. 

    FamousDrScanlon on December 25, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    A Year in Crises

    https://www.phenomenalworld.org/analysis/a-year-in-crises/

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      Kali on December 26, 2023 at 1:51 am

      Hadn’t seen this site before. Here is an LOL from their article on climate change:
      “Today rebuilding the world to be cleaner and more resilient will take vast amounts of physical effort and skilled manual work. Whatever your beliefs about—or definition of—economic growth, deindustrialization is not an option.”

      Got that? DEINDUSTRIALIZATION IS NOT AN OPTION!

      https://www.phenomenalworld.org/analysis/global-boiling/

19. 

    FamousDrScanlon on December 25, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    Not shocked in the slightest.

    Shocking Wake-Up Call: First Marine Fish Declared Extinct Due to Humans

    23 December 2023

    “Java Stingarees are the first marine fish to be declared extinct as a result of human activity.”

    “A shocking quarter of all known freshwater fish species are currently at risk of extinction, with 20 percent impacted directly by climate change.

    “Freshwater fishes make up more than half of the world’s known fish species, an incomprehensible diversity given that freshwater ecosystems comprise only 1 percent of aquatic habitat,..”

    “”These diverse species are integral to the ecosystem, and vital to its resilience. This is essential to the billions of people who rely upon freshwater ecosystems, and the millions of people who rely on their fisheries.”

    This decimation of aquatic species is tracking just as scientists predicted.”

    https://www.sciencealert.com/shocking-wake-up-call-first-marine-fish-declared-extinct-due-to-humans

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    FamousDrScanlon on December 25, 2023 at 10:30 pm

    “This decimation of aquatic species is tracking just as scientists predicted.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    As The Oceans Warm, Marine Life Faces Extinction Levels That Rival The Dinosaurs’ End

    30 April 2022

    “The geoscientists found that we’re essentially replicating a similar pattern seen during the ‘Great Dying’, 252 million years ago, when volcanoes spewing greenhouse gasses along with methane belching microbes rapidly amped up Earth’s temperatures, extinguishing as much as 90 percent of all marine animal species.

    As we continue to funnel the exhaust from fossil fuels into our atmosphere, the excess heat is changing the ocean’s chemistry and reducing its capacity to hold oxygen.”

    https://www.sciencealert.com/shocking-wake-up-call-first-marine-fish-declared-extinct-due-to-humans

21. 

    FamousDrScanlon on December 26, 2023 at 5:53 pm

    Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective

    “Wheels falling off cars at speed. Suspensions collapsing on brand-new vehicles. Axles breaking under acceleration. Tens of thousands of customers told Tesla about a host of part failures on low-mileage cars. The automaker sought to blame drivers for vehicle ‘abuse,’ but Tesla documents show it had tracked the chronic ‘flaws’ and ‘failures’ for years.”

    “The complex repair required nearly 40 hours of labor to rebuild the suspension and replace the steering column, among other fixes, according to a detailed repair estimate. The cost: more than $14,000. Tesla refused to cover the repairs, blaming the accident on “prior” suspension damage.

    Jain is one of tens of thousands of Tesla owners who have experienced premature failures of suspension or steering parts, according to a Reuters review of thousands of Tesla documents. The chronic failures, many in relatively new vehicles, date back at least seven years and stretch across Tesla’s model lineup and across the globe, from China to the United States to Europe, according to the records and interviews with more than 20 customers and nine former Tesla managers or service technicians.”

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

    Musk ain’t nothing but an endtimes hustler. It’s pathetic watching his fanboys constantly making excuses for him & his shit products & schemes. Musk is a criminal.

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      TR on December 26, 2023 at 9:58 pm

      I don’t guess some sucker consumers understand – “Buyer Beware”.

      Paraphrasing the Rolling Stones: ‘You can’t always get what you want,but sometimes you get what you deserve.’ Wonder how many buyers never researched Tesla problems or the cost & time of repairs? We’ve got to have everything right now, we don’t have time to wait another second before we get our greedy little hands on all our desires.

      “A sucker’s born every minute.”

22. 

    Curt Kastens on December 26, 2023 at 11:24 pm

    I have driven a Tesla for 4 years now with out any major problems. Although I drive the car I did not buy it. I am a Chauffer of sorts for the person who makes more money than I do and did buy the car.
    The person who bought the car did not buy out of any attempt to make a contribution to stop climate change as the person knew that was not possible.
    The main factor was the free Super charging offer. This benifit saves between 2 and 3 thousand Euros a year. Of course this offer is no longer available. Also no oil changes are a reasonably good benifit. Then another bennie is that the brake pads and brake linning last much longer on a Tesla than a conventional auto.
    Now one thing really bad that almost happened is that after 8 years a headlight needed to be changed. And Tesla wanted like 1500 Euros just to change a headlight. I do consider that outrageous.
    Well I took the car to a local Mechanic for the bosss. This mechanic watched a video about how Tesla recommends the headlight be changed. Then the mechanic tackled that problem himself. He said that he understands why Tesla charges so much but he found a much easier way to do it and charged only 200 Euros including the price for the new bulb. My boss gave me a Veterans day bonus for saving so much money.
    Yes I can say I would have been really pissed off if I would have had to have paid 1500 Euros to fix a headlight. On the other hand there was a time that the car had a problem with the navigation system.
    The Tesla mechanic worked on it for almost 10 hours to fix the problem. It was kind of annoying being stuck at the shop for 10 hours when it was initially estimated to only take a maximum of 2 hours to fix the problem. But Tesla only charged us 200 Euros for the labor and part. I certianly will not complain about that.
    Oh and I just remember the car also had a problem with the door handles at almost the 8 year mark.
    But the problem was so bizzare it makes me wonder if there is not more to the story that I am aware of. Part of the story is during the time that the door handles did not work the car was driven to Berlin.
    This was possible because although the doors would not open from the outside they worked just fine from the inside and one of the back doors continued to work from the outside. The arrival time in Berlin was 01:30 and by around 0300 the car was broken in to. But what is even more bizzare is after not working for at least a month on the last day before our motor vehicle inspection sticker expired the drivers side door started working. After talking with a mechanic I scheduled an inspection appointment for the next day. During the inspection the door worked. But immediately after the inspection the door stoped working again. If the car would have failed its inspection it would not have been driven to Berlin in the first place.
    What maybe needs a bit of explaining here is that it took so long to get the doors repaired because, at least this is what I was told, that one of the parts to fix the door was not available. These parts did not arrive until mid October the problem developed around early August.
    Well the cost of repair was around 700 Euros. Not cheap, but for a 8 year old car one is hardly in a position to bitch. None the less the roughly 10 week wait for parts in combination with the other coincidences is rather suspicous. Coincidences do happen. But things that are supposed to look like coincidences but are not really coincidences really happen too.
    The reason that all of this has to be mentioned is because the doors not working may not be the fault of Tesla parts failing after 8 years anyways.

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      Cassandra on December 27, 2023 at 12:29 pm

      Interesting stuff, Curt! Someone I know (age 32) just got a Tesla. He said it cost less than a Subaru. He is a successful tech entrepreneur and is thrilled with it. Early days LOL! Basically I think Scanlon’s observations hold true.

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    Rain on December 27, 2023 at 7:14 am

    Oh wow, havent been in for a few days, 36 posts? Is that a record?

    and Curt Kastens, yes, yes, yes.. not sure about the value of being so well-informed however, have lost, or deliberately, avoided many friends even family in the last few months 🙁

    Ignorance might be bliss after all.

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      Cassandra on December 27, 2023 at 12:31 pm

      Lost or deliberately avoided some family and friends? Sadly, same here.

24. 

    Curt Kastens on December 27, 2023 at 10:25 am

    Yes Rain, ignorance is bliss. But once one chooses to take the pill that reveals the true nature of things, one can not untake it.
    Social occasions are often a pain in the ass. If I must attend then playing card games or backgammen helps to avoid conversation. And at least in my case when I travel outside of Europe there is one sport that I have an interest in. And I am very fotunate that some of my inlaws share quite similar political sentiments to my own.

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    Heather B on December 27, 2023 at 5:04 pm

    Well the rain followed me from Seattle to Ohio where it was extremely warm for the holidays. Yes even the relatives on my husband side are bliss and in their own world. My husband got an mersades e car. Its breen glitchy ever since we got it. I hate the e cats they suck and the charging nightmares. We got an notification from the local energy company in Seattle to conserve heat too. My husband’s sister is going to be in charge of the ai train wreck implementation at the local internet/phone company. I tried to tell her there are problems and she brought up sustainability bs stuff. Good luck with that train wreck!

26. 

    Jerry McManus on December 27, 2023 at 6:30 pm

    New research models critical climate collapse conditions in ecological and biological systems
    https://phys.org/news/2023-12-critical-climate-collapse-conditions-ecological.html

    “When the rate of parameter change exceeds some critical value, a system can collapse in the sense of massive extinction in relatively short time,” Lai says. “The main finding is that even a slow parameter change can suddenly lead to a system collapse with catastrophic consequences.”

    This is the classic “straw that broke the camels back” definition of a tipping point. The farmer says “just one more straw…” one time too many and breaks the poor decrepit camels back, abruptly ending it’s days of carrying straw.

    If you follow the link to the actual paper they have another interesting definition that inspired me to think of a simple way to visualize it (no camels harmed).

    Think of holding two cups in your hands, one is empty and one has a small toy ball in it. Maybe the toy ball looks like the Earth, the “small blue marble”. Hold the cup with the toy over the empty cup and start slowly tipping it. Keep slowly tipping it until the toy finally falls into the other cup.

    There! You just modeled a “rate-induced tipping (R-tipping) in high-dimensional ecological networks”!

    The cups represent two different “equilibrium” in our complex climate and ecological systems and what this study is telling us is that it really doesn’t matter how slowly you tip the cup. The fact that it is tipping at all means you are going to eventually fall into the other cup, which in our case probably means extinction.

    Meanwhile the world blissfully motors on, fighting and fucking the whole time, and just like the ignorant farmer they say “just one more ton of carbon”.

    Just one more ton…

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    TR on December 27, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    “When the rate of parameter change exceeds some critical value,”

    Before I read the link, bet it never mentioned overpopulation as a parameter of change. I’ll be shocked if it does.
    The last words out of the last Clever Ape’s mouth; “It’s not my fault!”

    I’m still waiting for the global Main Slime Media’s public faces to have to accept the destruction to the habitat that they avoided reporting since 1750. Global population at that time; .60 – .68 billion & that was too many.

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      Jerry McManus on December 27, 2023 at 9:31 pm

      I didn’t read the whole paper, skimmed over the parts with dense math equations, but they are looking for relationships that can be captured at a more abstract mathematical level and then applied to any complex system.

      They study a number of already modeled food webs, and all the relationships therein, so I would assume population numbers of individual species would be an integral part of that.

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    TR on December 27, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    Let’s have a drink
    “In 2020, 11,654 people were killed in motor vehicle crashes involving alcohol-impaired drivers, accounting for 30% of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.”
    This means that 70% of vehicle deaths are caused by stupid sober scum? 😉

    https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

    You are killing yourself & you don’t believe it?
    https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-alcohol-deaths.html

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      FamousDrScanlon on December 29, 2023 at 4:29 pm

      stupid sober scum texting or surfing the web on their smartphones. Combined with the rest of the self distractions (eating, makeup etc) they have crippled & killed more people than drunk drivers ever could. How come DUI is the only crime that has an NGO with TV commercials painting drivers as the root of all evil while remaining dead silent on toxic carcinogenic alcohol? Why is there no MADR Mothers Against Drunk Rapists? I know if I worked for big alcohol I would spin everything negative on individual consumer behaviour and nothing on the product itself.

      Alcohol should have cancer warning labels, say doctors and researchers pushing to raise awareness of risk

      Advocates of warning labels want Canadians to understand alcohol is one of top causes of preventable cancer

      “It’s not a secret, but it may as well be. Few Canadians know the truth, and few may want to hear it: Alcohol, any amount of alcohol, can cause cancer. There is no safe amount, and the calls to inform Canadians are growing.

      “Even drinking one drink a day increases your risk of some cancers — including, if you’re a woman, breast cancer — but also cancers of the digestive system, the mouth, stomach,” said Tim Stockwell, a senior scientist with the Canadian Institute for Substance Use Research at the University of Victoria.

      “The risk increases with every drink you take.”

      Alcohol has been classified as a Group 1 carcinogen (carcinogenic to humans) for decades by the International Agency for Research on Cancer. It’s right up there with tobacco and asbestos. Alcohol is also a top cause of preventable cancer after smoking and obesity.

      But the vast majority of Canadians have no idea of the risk.

      Stockwell wants to change that, and he and other health experts are advocating for cancer warning labels on alcohol containers. People need to know, he says, that though there are other genetic and lifestyle factors that contribute to developing cancer, every drink comes with a risk.

      “The risk from alcohol, it’s a dose response. The bigger and more frequent the dose, the higher your risk.”

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/alcohol-warning-labels-cancer-1.6304816

      Put it up there among the worst of society’s hypocrisies. One of the best things about unpluging from TV shortly into the new century is never having to watch MADD’s stupid, over the top, scapegoat commercials again.

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    TR on December 27, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    I do enjoy how stupid this species can be.
    Premiered at the 2006 Sundance Film Festival. We had EVs in the mid 1990’s.
    Ignorant EV lovers wait until it too late for EVs to save the planet. All the technology today & stupid Americans are incapable of doing any research.
    Must be too busy texting, playing video games & taking selfies. Those that are incapable of removing their blinders, climbing out of their box & then out of their ego rut may get what they deserve.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fW4xYBXdGo

    Hurry back Pan. I tired of trying to educate the masses. 😉